Individuals are influenced by introjected aspects of the super-ego, including the ego-ideal that we have shown are parental representatives. So, you would be dead right if you said that really, we have been talking about groups all along. What we have not yet explored are Erostic and Thanatic influences upon the self when interrelating with the group ‘self that has a competing but much less compromising identity of its own. The primal relationship is also the basis for discussion here — because when people of all ages are highly disturbed from group participation, it is memories of the primal relationship that prick the adult ego to release Erostic and Thanatic defences.